Sorry Mike i can't remember the detail other than it is a fiddle & a finger breaker. I did not remove the glass from its steel carrier, I think I managed to disconnect the carrier from the winder pantograph thing by undoing every bolt in the frame arrangement and sliding things around.I do remember removing a 2" wooden block in the bottom of the door so that the glass would go further down. Take lots of pictures before you dismantle anything ,also take the opportunity to replace the knackered fence seal as you can easily get at the fixings when the glass is out of the way. Good luck Posted by Peter Martin 28/01/2014 12:41:30